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« on: March 09, 2010, 04:22:28 PM »

There are some brand new mirrors for sale on eBay. They look like Tornados from the photo, but they could be baby ones. Vendor lists them as Gamma items, though.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alfasud-and-Lancia-Gamma-brand-new-VITALONI-mirrors_W0QQitemZ260521520549QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3ca84aeda5#ht_500wt_698

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 05:17:17 PM »

non electric baby...  Grin


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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 08:40:29 PM »

Baby - which are sometimes available for less €; which look good & quite original, which work well & can't cause any shorts, which do not need to be wired, which are easy to mount properly & don't fall off (yet)  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 10:21:47 PM »

I'm with Johnny on this one... but the only thing he missed was that they are also £100 ! Not cheap then.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 03:13:57 AM »

This is not a baby.
It is the same size as an ordinary tornado(gamma).
However, a body is one.
 A back cover is also a plastic.
 It cannot remove a back cover.
It was £66 last year.  Wink


How is this?

http://cgi.ebay.de/VITALONI-MIRRORS_W0QQitemZ170454796647QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item27afe5c967
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 02:25:55 PM »

I purchased a pair from Torbay Tuning (same guy) last year for the Black one
they are smaller and a pain to set if someone knocks them, but I think the
smaller ones are more in keeping with the car.

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 04:36:36 PM »

price looks fair...maybe this is the person with a somewhat large mirror stock...or was that someone in CH ?  In any case, I have 1 Gamma in Gold with 2 different mirrors (after knocking an original right side mirror of my car myself, with the car sitting still  Angry.  It was replaced by a baby V.

I will not order another baby  V (or any other mirror) for the right side of my silver S1.....I will have to live with the blind spot o'er my rt shoulder ... I hope
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 03:18:22 AM »

I found the used mirror for Porsche in Japan.
It was about  £6.5


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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 11:15:41 AM »

Hello Mythos,   

I can not remember seeing a similar mirror on any Porsche ever.

What model Porsche was an Italian Mirror mounted on ? 

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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 08:37:00 PM »

They do not look like baby VITALONI to me neither, the front casing is not so pronounced on the baby I venture and the bracket has a center hole which might just be for wiring.. but ask, why not.. that's a damn good price (I've seen them in crappy condition at 500 bucks a pop) if you really wish/need a set and they is actually the proper big brother (hard to handle alignment passenger side - always the flappy ears)

Gotta praise Mr. Sunshine for his pictures, all bits nice and in place Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2010, 05:33:09 AM »

Hi johnny 48,

really, I do not know, too.  Huh
I was bid at the auction of Japan Yahoo!.
The seller was explaining it as the mirror for Porsche 911.
I have not seen Porsche to which this mirror was attached, either.
Would you ask the Porsche museum next month?  Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 09:56:33 AM »

Porsche list:  
not 356, 911, 912, 914, 924, 928, 944, 930, 968 etc nor any Porsche race car ever. P'che has always bought German produced mirrors, mirrors produced specifically for Porsche & not for another auto-manufacturer.

Very very  expensive, with or without electrics.  Very high quality, fit, finish, chrome or painted, never "all black" (except on a black car Grin)

1 basic style of mirror could fit different P'che models in different era; the mounting bracket (foot) was specific for each P'che model.

The mirrors must be mounted 101% accurately or the outer top & bottom corners will be tilted too far up or too far down, looking stupid in both cases & causing  the front door quarter-window frame or the windshield-frame to blocked the mirror.  

On 912/911 they were never mounted "directly across from each other"; the passenger side mirror was always mounted further back on the door.   If this was not done properly, someone was in a lot of trouble. Expensive repairs, welding, sanding, filling, painting, swearing cursing were justified.   I know !

For many many years there was no Porsche option for electric mirrors; nor for central locking for that matter.  

There was, however & still is, an option list that (usually) increases the new price of a new Porsche by 25 to 40%.  Ouch !  
Everything you have to have on your new Porsche costs money, a lot of money .....  I was "unhappy that a 2d mirror"; electric or not, cost as much as a used VW Polo.

Little know fact:  I can not tell you why...but when I was buying every nice 911/930 Porsche I could find in Euro & sending them to USA  I was often able to buy "factory registered cars"...that were (I assume) registered for 1 second & derigistered ... making them "used cars" & allowing Porsche to sell them at a price that made me  Cheesy

Porsche mirrors are currently produced by a German company that is owned by Magna of Canada .. (who seems to own many companies including Steyer AT I believe) ....  
I don't know why, but each division of this mirror-factory is sealed like a bank vault.
....for example....no one (except, I assume, upper-management) from the BMW mirror division can enter the Mercedes mirror division; no one from another division can enter the Porsche mirror division etc.

This factory attempted...some yrs ago...to move a % of  production to E. Euro.  They built a factory; trained managers, engineers, workers from E. Euro by bringing them to the main factory, north of Stuttgart, for an extended period of time.
Many hotels were filled, for many months....very good for the local economy....  
 
After production was started in E. Euro, many persons from the main factory North of Stuttgart had to visit the E. Euro factory...often & for many months per visit per visitor.  

A senior manager told me...
"we had to build each mirror at least 2x !
We were going to lose our entire German based work-force because no one wanted to go to E Euro, even at double pay, for 1/2 of each year....including me !
The E. Euro's didn't want us there either, so there was some "friction'...
.. in the end we had "only-trouble".

I asked "so what happened?".  He didn't look happy when he told me "10 years ago I had hair, now I have none & what hair I have left has turned white; we built this brand new factory in this town, the factory that you are now looking at (no, I could not go inside to look) to do the production that could not be done in E. Euro ...no matter how hard we tried to do it there.
We built this new factory next to our other brand new factory, because Magna gave us the budget to do it.  Then we took many E. Europeans from our factory in E. Euro & moved them here, forever... which is why this little farmer town in the hills has grown 500% in the last years; everyone was building new houses, supermarkets, pubs, schools...even a new Church !  
Now everyone prays together, regardless of religion, that the German Auto industry stay strong so we can pay for all these new buildings.  
 
I asked "what about the E. Euro factory, what do they build there now?.  He replied "mirrors for E. Euro produced cars &, please, ... no more questions,....,I have already told you too much. Drink your beer & tell me about your latest adventures" .

This I did not do; instead we kicked a soccer ball around, being careful to not spill our beer  Wink

1 happy persons in this town was the owner of a wood- floor factory; his firm also grew by 500%, very quickly.   He was very concerned that 1 day no more buildings would be built in that area & he would have to close his wooden-floor factory. This proved to be true.

That factory, with the same ownership,  now manufactures electronic systems ... for  "applications"  that he will not talk about.  His factory is sealed too !  
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2010, 04:55:07 PM »

http://www.oldbug.com/69cal.htm  Grin

Ohw. not a Porsche...  Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 10:37:23 AM »

Was just reminded that a few yrs. back, we're walking to our cars (to or from a restaurant) and I spotted a Renault 4 parked in a jumble of cars lining every gaddam street here, quite a few R4 about and I always enjoy spotting good 'ole' cars, but this one, cream, very fair condition was fitted w. TWO big boy VITALONI.. It cracked me up, on the one hand that they'd been fitted to this 'small' old car which in an extreme case could be worth more than the car, that the owner perhaps had no clue of his 'luck' to possess these coveted mirrors - that I should have made a note where it was parked and go back l8 at nite and steal them (tho I'd never do that)..

Who knows, they're might be a cash of big boy VITALONI's somewhere in some ole shop in Athens where and by chance someday sometime one might just stumble onto it.. I might let y'all know Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2010, 11:21:47 AM »

I am sorry.
Possibly my information had mistaken.
I asked the friend of the Porsche dealer.
But he said that this mirror was not used for Porsche.
Probably, the seller of the auction had mistaken.
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